irc.freenode.net #gentoo-cn log: 2009-12-08

[06:53:05] ? linuxqq
[06:53:06] mingdao: Results for linuxqq: 1. Classic: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Agentoo.org+linuxqq&hl=en | 2. Privacy: http://m.google.com/static/en/privacy.html
[06:53:24] ? linux-qq
[06:53:25] mingdao: Results for linux-qq: 1. Gentoo Bug 163155 - net-im/gaim-2.0.0_beta6 crashes with QQ: http://bugs.gentoo.org/163155 | 2. Gentoo Linux Documentation -- Pidgin: Multiple vulnerabilities: http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200905-07.xml | 3. Gentoo Linux -- List Archives: http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-admin-per-month.xml
[12:30:14] Why is there not a good guide for setting up SCIM and Chinese fonts?
[12:30:42] All the guides say different things.
[12:30:56] Where is the _one_ guide or HOW-TO which is truly correct?
[12:45:47] mingdao, do you have wqy-zenhei or wqy-bitmapfont installed ? then save this file http://dpaste.com/130612/ as ~/.fonts.conf and restart x
[14:01:33] druggo: 谢谢。。。我试一试。
[14:04:00] 我有wqy-bitmapfont和wqy-zenhei。
[14:04:16] druggo: Where to put "scim -d &" ?
[14:08:45] mingdao, 你是startx启动还是用xdm？
[14:09:34] startx 用Fluxbox
[14:10:18] I feel like a kid.
[14:10:27] I used Slackware for 6+ years.
[14:11:10] One of the Slackware devels and I got CJK support working in Slackware.
[14:11:18] Now Gentoo does not do things the same.
[14:12:19] mingdao, you should put scim -d in your ~/.xinitrc
[14:13:44] druggo: okay, it's there ... let me go see what fonts look like now
[14:15:05] SCIM didn't start.
[14:17:56] mingdao, sorry, i'm not familiar with scim, but how about your fonts ?
[14:18:32] These are my files: ~/.xinitrc = http://dpaste.com/130638/ ; ~/.Xdefaults = http://dpaste.com/130639/ ; ~/.fonts/.conf = http://dpaste.com/130640/ ; ~/.fluxbox/startup = http://dpaste.com/130641/ ; /etc/profile = http://dpaste.com/130642/
[14:18:55] When I started, rxvt-unicode launched with what looks like terminus.
[14:19:02] But ... SCIM didn't launch.
[14:19:20] That box is my laptop -- T61 ... over ssh. I walk to it to look.
[14:19:31] This post is from my desktop ... where fonts are not good.
[14:20:12] This is what this screen looks like: http://omploader.org/vMnh6Nw
[14:20:42] urxvt started via ~/.fluxbox/startup with urxvt -geometry 184x57 -fn "8x16bold" -pe tabbed -bg black -fg white &
[14:21:06] Again, the screenshot is _not_ the box where those files came from. That's just a screenshot.
[14:21:28] I _like_ English with this bitmap font ... but Hanzi are different sizes, and some fat, some thin.
[14:21:37] But I wanted to _first_ get C
[14:21:40] ooops
[14:22:00] get SCIM (or ibus or whatever) and fonts working well on the T61.
[14:22:22] Then I will transfer that knowledge to this box, and the other boxen on this LAN which are getting converted to Gentoo.
[14:22:34] This problem is just about a show stopper.
[14:22:38] I must use Hanzi daily.
[14:22:58] I just finished a book project that has over 31,000 lines of text in Hanzi.
[14:23:05] I had to use Slackware to do the work. :(
[14:27:30] mingdao, maybe you have some USE flag that Chinese related missing in the make.conf ? like these: cjk nls truetype
[14:30:07] "mmx sse sse2 ssse3 3dnow X scim unicode nls cjk aac acpi alsa ao atm audiofile bash-completion bluetooth bzip2 cairo cdparanoia cdr cracklib crypt css cups curl curlwrappers cxx directfb dri dvd dvdr encode exif expat fbcon ffmpeg firefox flac fontconfig foomaticdb ftp gd gdbm ggi gif gimp glut gnutls gpm gzip gtk hddtemp iconv icq icu idn ieee1394 imagemagick imlib jabber jbig jpeg jpeg2k lame lcms libnotify lm_sensors mad mime mmap mp3 mp4 mpe
[14:30:15] I have those three, and then some. ;)
[14:30:25] also unicode, scim ...
[14:31:48] This is my /etc/make.conf on the T61: http://dpaste.com/130645/
[14:32:42] mingdao, check locale by issue: locale -a |grep zh_CN
[14:35:17] http://dpaste.com/130648/
[14:38:39] mingdao, it's ok, I'm confused, for scim startup, you should place the line before exec $WM
[14:39:24] 好的。我试一试。
[14:45:19] mingdao, and the fontconfig filename is ~/.fonts.conf not .fonts/.conf
[14:45:38] http://omploader.org/vMnh6ZQ
[14:46:07] SCIM launched ... fonts still not good, such as 这 。。。太小
[14:46:27] I will change that .fonts/.conf to ~/.fonts.conf
[14:52:18] Fonts look very bad now.
[14:57:37] mingdao, you mean english font or chinese font?
[14:58:32] Both now.
[14:58:38] Have the anti-alias problem.
[14:58:57] Still have words such as 这 are very small.
[14:59:13] And Fluxbox takes too long to start.
[14:59:42] I try wqy-zenhei in ~/.Xdefaults ... looks bad, too.
[15:00:05] mingdao, ok, drop ~/.fonts.conf
[15:05:42] 我 mv .fonts.conf .fonts.conf~ 。看看 http://omploader.org/vMnh6aQ
[15:07:10] 对不起、我有事。以后回来。
[15:07:18] mingdao, try another terminal , I recommend lxterminal
[15:07:31] Does it use tabs?
[15:07:39] I must have a terminal with tabs ...
[15:08:08] mingdao, I remember it has tabs
[15:08:26] Okay, I will "emerge lxterminal"
[15:08:41] 你们用什么 terminal?
[15:08:50] And do you see anything wrong with my other files?
[15:09:18] 我回来的时候，试一试 lxterminal.
[15:09:40] If you don't hate gnome that much, I suggest gnome-terminla
[15:10:26] I like tabs~
[15:11:20] I don't like Gnome ...
[15:11:38] Or KDE ... or LXDE ... or any DE ;)
[15:13:07] I must go ... when I come back, I will try lxterminal. I just want Hanzi to look nice.
[15:13:24] My Chinese friend said use SimSun in Firefox; use Terminus in terminal.
[15:13:32] But he uses KDE ... and Konsole.
[15:13:39] whatever, it's ur taste, gentoo is all about choice
[15:14:11] Simsun is good choice, have to say
[15:15:14] I need something to use in termina.
[15:15:16] terminal
[15:15:19] I use vim a lot.
[15:15:39] Just finished working on Chinese document with over 31,000 lines.
[15:15:53] Must have good Chinese fonts in terminal ... and must have tabs.
[15:16:07] later ... 感谢你们
[15:55:33] ...
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